@vageorge: "The church bishops should know (if they have studied the Bible) that God will hold them accountable. God said plainly..."

maybe God's plan to have bishops in hell to administer to all the sinners down there...ie;

we who take His Name in vain (cuss); didn't remember the sabbath; didn't honor our parents; us murders; those who committed adultery; those who bore false witness against their neighbor; those who coveted their neighbor's house, wife, manservant, maidservant, ox, ass, or any thing,

re: 'God said plainly...'

not sure our God (whoever She is or whatever color) said anything plainly...also probably part of Her/His plan...ie, left it open to ones' interpretation so we could please our egos...and justify a multitude of religions (christian and otherwise)

contrary to stanley. God said His Word, the Holy Bible is not up to any private interpretation.

harry : church membership is down and people are leaving the churches because they were not really saved in the first place. and many of the churches are not the Lords Church. He only has one , not many different ones that teach a diffetrent salvation like the denominations do. thay all can't be His true Church now can they ?

They gays widely use this defense, e.g. shrimp is an abomination. They hypocrites never really have a response to it though...

Richard that was under the Law, now we are under "Grace" and those laws for the most part are not for the New Covenant of Grace. Only the Moral Law still stands as before , except we do not put to death the sodomite today, they have "Grace while still alive to repent and change .. Amen. The Homosexual and lesbian still can be saved through the Lords shed Blood for their sins , but they "Must" repent and change ..

Reg-- you are a GREAT PATRIOT of our Great Country, the USA -- YOU MUST BE A DEMOCRAT!

The list of foods that the children of Israel could eat is listed, that was under the law. it does not apply now . most of the food from the sea that they could not eat was bottom feeders and without scales that also ate other dead sea creatures. read your Bible people......It always started out . "Tell the children of Israel", at the time it was only for the children of Israel in the days of Moses. I think that is covered in the Book of Lev.chap. 11 concerning eating food.

The hypocrisy of william clark knows no bounds.

Either the bible can be interpreted or it can't. Eat a shrimp, burn in hell.

reg, there is eternal damnation. God has had it written in His Word to all men . all one needs to do is read it as written, God has condemned all who do not beleieve in Him or His Son Christ Jesus. And for those who post . " whoever this God is She/he is not good . it shows a person who does not believe .

The bible also says that the Jewish people are God's chosen people. So you're saying that all Jews are going to hell because they're not Christian?

reg cannot resist that sweet sweet bait william is trolling. Fish on william, fish on!

@reg: "...Jews are going to hell...'

YES! and 66% of the world's population...and who know how many christians who are fornicators, greedy wall street bastards, etcetc...

some way they have to get the number going to heaven down to 144,000...and these 144,000 have to be in someway connected with the original 12 tribes, but not jews...

PS
forgot episcopalians and politicians who are going to hell...

JoSCh: '... william is trolling...

not sure just what an internet troll is and what their intent is...

but william provides the opportunity to opine/show the most GOOD BOOK is not to be taken literally.

you "all you can eaters" are going to HELL!!!

And there is no freaking way the cole slaw is as good in hell as it is at KFC.

Fisher: eating KFC is not a sin, its eating in excess that is the sin . . lets not take everything out of context ok ? perhaps you need to study the sin of "Gluttony" from the Bible stand point . and not the worldly point of view which is always wrong compared to the Holy Bible .:) amen

Fisher, it is very apparent you do not understand the scripture. gluttony means to eat in excess of any food or drink . eating at KFC is not gluttony, or any other place for that matter. eating in excess each day of ones life and gaining weight where you can't get around and drinking to excess where you lose your self control is a sin . Fisher do you go to any church for instruction in righteousness and Doctrine ? sounds like noone goes to church to be instructed these days .

Tim. has the person "repented" and asked for forgiveness ? or is it that you want us to forgive no matter what ? I can't forgive someone that is continuing to sin in their life that God has condemned , if God doesn't forgive those that go after strange flesh without repentence and change do you believe God will demand me to forgive their sin ? how can I forgive a sin as a sinner ? I can forgive one who sins against me personally . I can't forgive what God condemns, no man can . I can tell them about salvation in Christ Jesus.

Scripture states "That all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." That is why Jesus died on the cross as an atonement (payment) for our sins once and for all. The old has past away. (Old Test.) the New Test. is what we should be the example we should strive to live by. The bottom line is the shed blood of Jesus payed it all. As the old hymn of the church goes: "What can was away my sin? Nothing but the blood of Jesus."

Robert: The "Moral Law still stands as in Moses day. that was never changed . same for the new Testament except we do not put to death the sodomite (homosexual/lesbian ) in the New Covenant of Grace, God has given them more time to "repent and Change through the Holy Spirit", But most will not repent and shall die in their sin . And we know what happens in that case. remember ! God is no respector of persons ......

William Clark, it must be awesome, or awful, to be the only one with the truth and perfect understanding. Even to the extent that you know who will be saved and who will be condemned..."But most will not repent and shall die in their sin". Based upon the number of unsolicited preachings you have posted here, you might want to be careful about the Pride thing. Arrogance is pretty close. Are you a prideful person? If so, then you might need to correct for that.

Robert, Romans Chap. 1 gives us the Word against Homosexuality and other sins of man against God and Christ.But the focus is on the Homosexual and lesbian sin , going after strange flesh, also, in other books of the new Testament it warns us of what Happened to Sodom and Gomorrah and the other cities of the plains because of their going after strange flesh (homosexual/lesbian conduct as an abomination.

Romans chapter 1 pertains to worship of false idols. Even Matthew Henry, a very conservative minister and faith consultant, denies your claims. Since you have that portion of the bible in front of you right now, wm - see Romans 3:23 - All have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. I think you should try to examine your own sins at the moment, and quit trying to play God with your issuance of damnation.

Tim. God's Word condemns all sin and punishment for it . all we are doing is saying what God has said concerning types of sins of man. we are not the ones condemning or Judging others . God's word has already done that . we just state those words and tell the ignorant what God has said . :)because i agree with God's word on Sodomite conduct and going after strange flesh and the Lust of it . doesn't say I am the one who is Judging or condemning . now does it ?

Robert, no i am not prideful or arrogant, all I have done is repeat what God and Christ has said about whi is condemned and who shall be saved according to His Word. and , No. i am not perfect in my life, i do however try to live according to God's precepts . remember . now that the saved have been found righteous in Christ. and also Justified in Christ Jesus, and God doesn't see their sins as such he sees His Son who died for my sins. however i do not sin willfully. Tim and Robert, we are to reprove those who sin and rebuke before all, that was given to His people to do. and to tech and show the lost the way to salvation in Christ. you can't live like the world does and be saved and in the Lord, remember what Christ said . " If you are a friend of the world, then you are an enemy of Christ". oh, and by the way, I do not condemn anyone . all i do is tell them that God has condemned them and Judged them by His Word, problem is . most don't read His Word. sad as that may be .

Also shrimp. And crossbreeding cows. And having two kinds of crops in the same garden. Or wool blends.

I always imagine people who have so many typos are typing in a rage. A gay fueled Jesus rage. So thank you for that.

Michael, so is the Book of Leviticus still the roadmap for rules and regulations? I have never understood why good conservative Christians will not answer that question directly. Is Paul really authorized to make rules beyond what Jesus said? Tim mentioned the forgiveness aspect of the New Testament, in addition, what about the socialist aspect of Jesus' teachings? Selling what you have, giving the money to the poor, all that stuff that good conservative religious right people seem to overlook.
Since there will be a lot of religious folks reading this thread, I would like to ask another question I have not understood. Seriously, I am not being sarcastic or even Socratic. Since we seem to assume that Jesus' stories (a man went out to sow some seeds, etc.) were parables intended to teach a lesson and not to be taken literally, why do we not assume that Moses' explanations about creation were NOT parables intended to simplify and explain concepts to the largely uneducated Jews he was leading? Why do we have to take the Old Testament literally (throwing out evolution) but we can take the New Testament figuratively? I like to think of God as the master craftsman with a really enormous toolbox of things to work with. Things like biology, physics, chemistry etc. These are all tools to make the product, and evolution would be one of these tools. We see evolution all around us in nature, especially in virus development in the short term, so what about short term? Thanks.

Yes Michael, you are correct on that truth .Jesus did not do away with the Moral Law .

I'm assuming this is going to be a gay marriage so it is probably easiest to go to New England for the nuptuals. How bout we wait until the fall so we can catch the leaves changing on the trip? Also I'm going to need to talk to my wife about this. And how much money do you make?

Well, I tried. But if I convinced you, ours might be the first same-sex marriage that actually impacted the sanctity of marriage. That's something, eh?

So I should cancel the bed and breakfast reservations?

@Was an Episcopalian: '...we should not celebrate what our God has labeled as sin in the Bible...'

maybe consider:

Leviticus 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

you think...we should not celebrate a BBQ and bbq eaters are sinners...

Most all churches have bought into satans compromise of the Truth of God's word .

Richard : no such thing as a Homosexual or Lesbian Christian or a Christ centered one , not possible according to God's Word . It is condemned in the Bible . what do you not understand about that truth? If one believed in God and Christ they would not be in that lifestyleof sin ... One who continues in that conduct has not repented and changed and doesn't believe in Christ nor obeys His commands to live a Holy and Honoring Life before God.

Richard, there is no such thing as a believer who remains in their homosexual lifestyle, no such thing as a "Christian" who lives contrary to the Lords commands to His people . and they will never get to that narrow path to life. you just can't get on that road (narrow) and continue in a sinful lifestyle, you can't even get through that strait gate to get to the Narrow Road..... Sorry. Matt; 7:13-14, please read.....And, one will never be forgiven for their sin without first . "Repenting " of those sins before a Just and Holy God.....Don't Deceive yourselves with that notion that God only "Forgives", without Repentance.......there is no Forgiveness.

Michael, I assume you mean forgiveness from sin, but you never answered the earlier question about the guidelines...specifically, is the Book of Leviticus the Christian roadmap? And if so, is it the entire book, or do you feel better cherry-picking which sins you are comfortable with? And does Paul the tormenter-turned-preacher carry more weight in Christian thought than Christ? You are preaching and condemning without defining what the rules are or specifying where the rules are documented so we can all understand!

Michael: "Repentence" comes before "Forgiveness" . Amen.

The bible also states that if you eat from the ocean that which does not have scales it is an abomination, just like homosexuality? If you've eaten shellfish you may as well have fellated a man. How would you characterize the taste of balls? Salty? I hope not vinegar even though some upstaters like the vinegar on their pork.

Michael: that is always the answers you get from the unbelievers in this world. Sad as that is :( And Paul was chosen by God to be an apostle of Christ Jesus, and also Chosen By God to pen His inspired word to all of mankind...many hate God's inspired commands through the apostle Paul, but that is their big problem by rejecting God's Word .

@Michael Kuhne: '...It is obvious...'

obvious to who/whom...be careful making statements w/o proof...eg, it wasn't obvious to our founders...who put separation of church in the constitution...liberals want to uphold the constitution

cant quantify...but opine: religious conservatives (biblical literal interpreters) cherry pick more than the evil godless liberals...

sigh, how anyone can say God choose the jews to be separate from gentiles defies logic and scripture...

also, bet liberals are no more permissive than conservatives...eg, susan smith's step dad and sandusky and friends...

vice defining liberals as evil and conservatives as God fearing...just make the division (discuss) sinners and non-sinners...there are equal number of sinners in any political party.